As some of you skeptical people proclaim. Bless your hearts.
So you relied purely on God and your faith and did not consult with any doctors, have any surgery or radiotherapy or chemotherapy?
If I was healed of cancer through prayer and the power of God, how can religion possibly be destructive?
August 16, 2010 By 28 Comments
But you were not were you or it would be in the media!!
So easy to claim but I notice you said "if" and that surely was meant to mislead!!!
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a) how do you know it was prayer and the power of god, instead of cancer going into remission for natural but unknown causes (GASP – you did not have actual medical treatment, right?)? Can you go back in time and this time pray to the easter bunny, see if that works too?
b) look at history and the effects of religion.
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Also, how do you rhyme your recovery with the millions of people that DO die of cancer. They didn’t pray hard enough? A 0.00001% prayer success rate is no different from what you would expect from pure chance. And what to make of the spontaneous remissions of people who believe in different gods or no gods at all?
Tell that to all the people who died at the hands of theists who believed they were doing their god’s will by killing infidels/witches/heathens/heretics.
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Simple; because you weren’t. If you had a recovery, good for you. Prayer didn’t have a damn thing to do with it. Multiple studies conducted have shown absolutely no correlation between prayer and recovery from illnesses. For every one person who has a ‘miraculous recovery through prayer’, another 999 die while following the same practices.
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In fact a recent study shows that prayer and positive thinking have no effect on cancer mortality.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/22/health/webmd/main3393759.shtml
It could be a mixture of treatment , remission, and or science. Take your pick. It was still a nice try though.
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Along with your surgery, radiation and chemotherapy which have improved greatly over the past 20 years, sending the cancer survival rate skyrocketing. Ah, details, details, right? Who cares about that high-falutin’ medical stuff you did when you also prayed?
I remember that teenage girl a few years ago in Pennsylvania whose parents prayed over her all the way through her diabetic coma. All the way to her death.
My brother outgrew asthma and is atheist. No prayer, no power of an imaginary god. Golly.
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It’s not religion that heals.
It’s spirituality that can help. I’m not talking scientology crapola, either. BIG difference.
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really now?….provided you received absolutely NO medical help, that is…….
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It is only destructive when destructive people use it to manipulate people within the religion. It is destructive when the church used to go around burning "witches" at the post. That is when religion is no longer religion but a struggle for power.
So religion in it’s pure form is not destructive, but the people who manipulate it can be.
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Self belief works wonders and it has nothing to do with prayer.
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Why did God give you cancer to start with? I’m sure there is a more logical answer to why you were healed.
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But you weren’t.
Spontaneous remission of cancer happens sometimes whether or not you believe in god, and whether or not you receive intercessional prayer.
Once again, no proof. Show me where an amputated limb, for example, has been regrown through belief and prayer.
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So you didn’t have an operation, Chemotherapy or any other kind of medical treatment?
Hmmm… judging by the answers, the only person you are fooling is yourself
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Let me guess: You were diagnosed with cancer, took no medications at all, did not receive any form of treatment like chemotherapy, radiotherapy, laser or conventional surgery or anything else, and it completely disappeared?
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If I healed my friend through a wiccan ritual then doesn’t that contradict everything you ever believed in?
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Did science play any role perchance?
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prayer as such does give some comfort but there are other forms of divine healing that work great wonders indeed it is so. take TLACOTE water tablets on a homeopathic form they cure cancer aids etc. it is part of the manifestation of the world teacher for all mankind. he will create 777 holy wells upon earth over time. at present there are four wells one in mexico/germany/india/ etc.
watch recent video http://www.s12.si/content/view/109/60/
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http://www.share-international.org
If you was (sic) healed – I will gladly eat my hat for you.
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I’ll give you an example of how religion can destroy:
Christ taught to think of God as a loving Father… not as a deity who needs sacrifice to be appeased. That Pauline blood theology destroys the tender feelings one can have towards the Father.
More context is on my biography.
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I’m glad you are better but I think your idea that it was prayer is not very likely. It comforts you to believe this and was empowering to you when you were ill and afraid. In this way it has psychological benefits. Religion can provide positive psychological benefits to some people and also provide social outlets and cohesion. It can also be used to manipulate people and deny human rights when any one group gets riled up against those who don’t share their beliefs and seeks to impose them on others. Think of the inquistions, the witch trials, the suicide bombers in the name of religion, persecution of Jewish people, acid thrown on women who choose not to wear burkas, programs that seek to curtain family planning and condoms in HIV and starvation ravaged countries, people who want to impose their beliefs and life choices on those who don’t share their religion, the refusal to accept valid scientific theories that has consequences for the advancement of humanity, etc…
Supernatural beliefs I guess are fine for you but really keep them to yourself and the circle of people you share them with.
I’m even a bit skeptical about the perceived placebo effect. I do think its plausible that having a positive belief that you will survive and be healed will stimulate you to behave in ways that lend to that outcome and reinforce your bodies healing and immune system. This seems true though from a variety of methods, secular meditation, Buddhist chants, prayer originating in various beliefs, etc… The most comprehensive scientific study on this though involved cardiac patients and the results showed those who knew they were being prayed for actually had slightly more complications post surgery. There was no positive correlation between prayer and recovery or speed of recovery, all groups were about equal.
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There have been many studies done in the past that have demonstrated very conclusively that prayer works *provided* the recipient knows they’re being prayed for. In every blind study that has ever been done where the recipients of prayer weren’t aware that they were being prayed for the results were the same as for everyone else. The placebo effect is a powerful one indeed!
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My kids friend’s mother just died of cancer two weeks ago. She left behind a husband who loved her very much, and two kids age 17 and 16, a boy and a girl.
The family was/is very fundamentalist Christian. The boy told my son about two months ago that he doesn’t believe in any of that anymore because God hadn’t healed his mom, who was still in the process of dying at that time.
The week after she died, I let my kids go with the boy and girl to one of their revival meetings. The preacher got up on the mic, there were a couple hundred people there.
Then he started raving on and on about how God will cure cancer, and all kinds of things.
My daughter said she looked over at the boy, and he was sitting with his hands over his ears and his head on his knees, crying in severe pain from having to listen to that.
That poor, poor boy having to be subjected to this kind of nonsense that is causing him SO much pain.
In my opinion this is emotional child abuse.
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I think it was great you was healed of cancer, but God didn’t do it honey.
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If I flew a plane into a tall building, how can religion possibly be destructive?
I rest my case!
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Because such cures are most likely frauds or a misdiagnosis and rarely a natural remission which happens to people who don’t pray as well.
Why does God hate amputees? If he cures cancer, get the lame walking, etc why doesn’t he help out amputees by regrowing the lost limbs?
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So you relied purely on God and your faith and did not consult with any doctors, have any surgery or radiotherapy or chemotherapy?
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Because it fills your brain with delusional beliefs like the idea that your body needs help from God to fight cancer. It makes you believe that if you pray for something unlikely to happen and it happens, that automatically means that God is real.
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